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	<title>Comments for Moodle Quiz UI for creating quizzes</title>
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	<description>Olli Savolainen: Usability adventures in Kesäkoodi (Summer [of] Code)</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Adding single questions directly to quiz - completed by Olli</title>
		<link>http://www.pilpi.net/software/moodle_quiz_ui/2008/07/08/adding-single-questions-directly-to-quiz-completed/#comment-107</link>
		<dc:creator>Olli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 06:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the parameter would be createdquestion, that would essentially mean that edit.php would need to accept both addquestion and createdquestion for adding questions...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the parameter would be createdquestion, that would essentially mean that edit.php would need to accept both addquestion and createdquestion for adding questions&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Adding single questions directly to quiz - completed by Olli</title>
		<link>http://www.pilpi.net/software/moodle_quiz_ui/2008/07/08/adding-single-questions-directly-to-quiz-completed/#comment-101</link>
		<dc:creator>Olli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do think that it is the choice of the calling module what to call its own parameters, not the choice of the question module, that is why I chose to parametrize the parameter name. It seems entirely posscreatedquestionible that the further processing operation of the calling page would be a totally different operation than adding a question. &lt;strong&gt;Edit:&lt;/strong&gt;Perhaps, if the parameter would be something generic/from the point of view of the question page - like &lt;em&gt;createdquestion&lt;/em&gt; - it would make sense, but now it is &lt;em&gt;addquestion&lt;/em&gt;, which unnecessarily ties it to the parametric ideas of the quiz editing page. However, this is up to you and I certainly can hard code it.

The reason I think it might be good for especially a novice to have to consciously choose the category is that especially some people in the original suggestion saw question categories as an important structure, the usage of which should be enforced on /all/ users. I do not think it should be enforced, but now that the question bank is hidden in the quiz view by default, encouraging people to use categories at least while creating questions is not harmful - and a dropdown probably does not slow anybody down much anyway. This is not crucial, but may help novices to get started on their dreadful ;) journey to understanding the question bank.

Perhaps a better approach would be to make the category list visually more prominent/attention catching, i.e. the entire list visible in a sidebar, for example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do think that it is the choice of the calling module what to call its own parameters, not the choice of the question module, that is why I chose to parametrize the parameter name. It seems entirely posscreatedquestionible that the further processing operation of the calling page would be a totally different operation than adding a question. <strong>Edit:</strong>Perhaps, if the parameter would be something generic/from the point of view of the question page - like <em>createdquestion</em> - it would make sense, but now it is <em>addquestion</em>, which unnecessarily ties it to the parametric ideas of the quiz editing page. However, this is up to you and I certainly can hard code it.</p>
<p>The reason I think it might be good for especially a novice to have to consciously choose the category is that especially some people in the original suggestion saw question categories as an important structure, the usage of which should be enforced on /all/ users. I do not think it should be enforced, but now that the question bank is hidden in the quiz view by default, encouraging people to use categories at least while creating questions is not harmful - and a dropdown probably does not slow anybody down much anyway. This is not crucial, but may help novices to get started on their dreadful ;) journey to understanding the question bank.</p>
<p>Perhaps a better approach would be to make the category list visually more prominent/attention catching, i.e. the entire list visible in a sidebar, for example.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Adding single questions directly to quiz - completed by Tim Hunt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Hunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Category is currently required when creating a new question, however, this is only really used to get a contextid, so we know in what context to check permissions. And it only sets a default category, there is still a dropdown menu at the top of the form to let the use choose a category. What is wrong with that? As a user, I would much rather a sensible default category was chosen for me and I did not have to think about it.

If you wanted, you could change it to accept a contextid as an alternative to a categoryid, and then make the category dropdown a required field that starts blank ('Choose ...'). It is not very hard, but as you say it does involve changing a number of files, which 

I don't think you need a new parameter on the question editing page. That is unnecessarily flexible. Just hard-code the name of the parameter added to returnurl as newquestionid, or something like that. That is a bit simpler.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Category is currently required when creating a new question, however, this is only really used to get a contextid, so we know in what context to check permissions. And it only sets a default category, there is still a dropdown menu at the top of the form to let the use choose a category. What is wrong with that? As a user, I would much rather a sensible default category was chosen for me and I did not have to think about it.</p>
<p>If you wanted, you could change it to accept a contextid as an alternative to a categoryid, and then make the category dropdown a required field that starts blank (&#8217;Choose &#8230;&#8217;). It is not very hard, but as you say it does involve changing a number of files, which </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think you need a new parameter on the question editing page. That is unnecessarily flexible. Just hard-code the name of the parameter added to returnurl as newquestionid, or something like that. That is a bit simpler.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Implementation plan by Moodle Quiz UI for creating quizzes &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Prototypicalifragiolistic</title>
		<link>http://www.pilpi.net/software/moodle_quiz_ui/implementation-plan/#comment-49</link>
		<dc:creator>Moodle Quiz UI for creating quizzes &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Prototypicalifragiolistic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 13:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] was here was moved to the Implementation plan [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Project schedule by Moodle Quiz UI for creating quizzes &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The first day of the rest of the fun</title>
		<link>http://www.pilpi.net/software/moodle_quiz_ui/project-schedule/#comment-17</link>
		<dc:creator>Moodle Quiz UI for creating quizzes &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The first day of the rest of the fun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 18:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] substantial amount of usability research to do before implementing the UI as PHP, I will publish a new project plan today (update: I did.). I am also planning to do my masters thesis about this project, but I have [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] substantial amount of usability research to do before implementing the UI as PHP, I will publish a new project plan today (update: I did.). I am also planning to do my masters thesis about this project, but I have [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Getting started by Erkki Aikamies</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erkki Aikamies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 17:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hieno projektin aihe. Ajattelin itse koodata kirjanpito-ohjelman javalla pk-yrityksille, mutta pitää ensi opiskella koodaamaan 8D
Toivottavasti pääsen testaamaan jossain vaiheessa valmiin tuotteen hedelmiä koulussani.

P.S.
Jos ihmettelet miksi javalla, niin se on suhteellisen helppo ja siitä on yksi peruskurssi tullut luettua.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hieno projektin aihe. Ajattelin itse koodata kirjanpito-ohjelman javalla pk-yrityksille, mutta pitää ensi opiskella koodaamaan 8D<br />
Toivottavasti pääsen testaamaan jossain vaiheessa valmiin tuotteen hedelmiä koulussani.</p>
<p>P.S.<br />
Jos ihmettelet miksi javalla, niin se on suhteellisen helppo ja siitä on yksi peruskurssi tullut luettua.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Getting started by Olli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Olli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 20:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will report any progress here. If you wish to have it in your e-mail, enter
http://www.pilpi.net/software/moodle_quiz_ui/2008/03/31/getting-started/feed/

into any of the services here:
http://www.google.com/search?q=rss+to+email

Or what do you mean?
Thank you for the encouragement anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will report any progress here. If you wish to have it in your e-mail, enter<br />
<a href="http://www.pilpi.net/software/moodle_quiz_ui/2008/03/31/getting-started/feed/" rel="nofollow">http://www.pilpi.net/software/moodle_quiz_ui/2008/03/31/getting-started/feed/</a></p>
<p>into any of the services here:<br />
<a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=rss+to+email" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/search?q=rss+to+email</a></p>
<p>Or what do you mean?<br />
Thank you for the encouragement anyway.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Getting started by david windham</title>
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		<dc:creator>david windham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 17:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i would like to follow the progress of this project. keep me updated thks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i would like to follow the progress of this project. keep me updated thks.</p>
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